ymls articles after 2023 summer back water craziness
Because this ymls is too good at writing these articles, I have to share them here for other fans to read😄 This ymls's perspective is very interesting. She viewed these black waters as something positive in YY's career. Whether or not people can be as optimistic as her, her writings could calm down some worried hearts.
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4935979653138103
其实我想过像羊这样毫无黑点的明星要怎样保持自己的新鲜感和生命力,因为一路平顺的明星就是死路一条,除去温和的好感和漠视之外什么都没了,此处我能举例50位实绩咖得奖咖口碑咖的名字。他们名声巨好,同时无人在意。这个不包括对演员身份、作品和角色的讨论哈,那是另外的议题,只讨论这个明星作为“明星”自己的话题度和价值。
In fact, I have thought about how a star like YY, who has no black stain in his career, can maintain his freshness and vitality. A star who has a smooth journey is actually leading to a dead end; aside from good impression and indifference (from people), there's nothing left. I can give names of 50 people/celebs who's got good achievements, won awards, and had good reputations as examples here. They have great reputations, but, at the same time, no one cares about them. This is not a discussion about the identity as an actor, the works, and roles. That is another topic. Here, we only discuss a star's ability to create hot topics for conversation (without trying) and his value as a "star" himself.
In fact, I have thought about how a star like YY, who has no black stain in his career, can maintain his freshness and vitality. A star who has a smooth journey is actually leading to a dead end; aside from good impression and indifference (from people), there's nothing left. I can give names of 50 people/celebs who's got good achievements, won awards, and had good reputations as examples here. They have great reputations, but, at the same time, no one cares about them. This is not a discussion about the identity as an actor, the works, and roles. That is another topic. Here, we only discuss a star's ability to create hot topics for conversation (without trying) and his value as a "star" himself.
所以我对烟火这个情况给羊造成的影响,乐观程度超过特战和且试播完造成的影响。这两部剧尤其是特战,给羊带来了很大的正面加成,让羊的地位极其稳固,但我对烟火的影响甚至更加乐观。我很吃惊居然有人觉得这是粉圈在自我安慰,真不是,一个永远都是鲜花掌声的偶像可能会让粉丝快乐些,但久而久之就会让人失去爱恨的敏锐和真情实感,当人们不再对你真情实感,他们就不在乎你了。
So, I am way more optimistic about the influence of "Fireworks of My Heart" on YY, compared to after "Glory of Special Force" and "Who Rules the World" aired. Those two dramas, especially GoSF, brought YY lots of positive feedbacks, putting him in a very stable position. But I am even more optimistic about the influence from FOMH. I'm surprised some people thought it was the fandom comforting ourselves. It really was not. An idol who's always received flowers and applause might make his fans happier, but over time, it makes people lose their sensitivity and true feelings of love and hate. When people no longer have true feelings for you, they no longer care about you.
当然现在羊是这种情况的彻底反面,全内娱没有一个人,真的,没有一个人,承担了这么多这么深刻广泛的真情实感,爱与恨都特别真情实感,粉和黑都充满了对他旺盛的表达欲,这是一个明星最值钱的地方,最珍贵、最有魅力的地方。我之前说过,这个夏天针对烟火和羊的情绪营销,也是对他爱恨的一次情绪大激活,你为这个人花过情绪,他就在你的生命里留下了痕迹,成为你生命的一部分,没有什么比这更体现一个明星的价值和稀缺程度。
Of course, YY's situation is the complete opposite right now. In the Chinese entertainment world, nobody, really, not a single person had received/undertaken so much true feeling, with such breadth and intensity; love and hate were both very real; fans and haters were both full of desire to talk about him... this is the most valuable part of a star; the most precious, and the most charismatic. I have said this before, the emotional sales toward FOMH and YY this summer was a great emotional activation/stimulation of love and hate toward him. If you became emotional for this person, he then left a mark in your life and became part of your life. Nothing better reflects how valuable and rare a star is than this.
他能吸引你的注意力、他让你投入真实的情绪、他让你不断想要去讨论他、去传播他——我的天,这是多少明星做梦都求不来的,花巨款都要去人工造出来的,杨洋轻轻松松一分不花就做到了,还是在粉、黑、路人身上都做到了。如果这不算珍贵,这不算有价值,这不算天生就是巨星,那没人称得上是。
He attracted your attention; he made you devote your true feelings and emotions; he made you want to keep discussing him and keep spreading news about him.... My goodness, this is what so many celebrities couldn't even dream of having; people want to achieve this even by spending huge amount of money to make it happen artificially, but YY achieved this easily without spending a cent. And he made this happen to fans, haters, and passerby people. If this is not precious, if this is not valuable, if this does not show he was born to be a superstar, then nobody deserves to be called a superstar.
有些人宁可无人讨论自己的爱豆,也不要被嘲,这种心态在我看来短视并且与黑无异。一个明星,没人在意,没人黑,没人讨论,没人给眼神了,不寂寞吗?这就是个吃知名度饭的职业,这就是一个注意力经济的时代,情绪是这个时代最值钱的东西。有人想要世界上只剩下对他的赞美我理解,但如果一个人只有赞美的声音,他就已经走向竞争力的减弱与衰颓了。这是必然的,只有掌声的地方留不住人。——而有些人宁可连声音都没有,也不要有他不想听到的声音,怎么的,还想把杨洋锁地下室藏起来只给你一个人欣赏吗?他不是什么小众癖好(一般这样的在小众圈里都口碑巨好),他是真破圈层真国民度的巨星,他是属于所有知道他的人的。
Some people would rather nobody discuss/talk about their idol, than being laughed at. In my opinion, this kind of mindset is not only short-sighted, but these people are not different from the haters. Wouldn't a star be lonely if nobody cares, nobody attacks, nobody discusses, and nobody pays attention? This is a profession that depends on fame. This is an era in which the economy builds upon people's attention. Emotion is the most valuable thing in this era. I understand there are people who want the only thing left for him in this world is compliment, but if a person only receives compliments, then his competitive edge will be weaken and diminished. This is inevitable; a place that has only applause cannot make people stay. There are some other people who'd rather having no sound at all than hearing anything they don't want to hear. What is this? Do you want to lock YY up in the basement so only you can enjoy/appreciate him? He is not for small crowds; he is a real superstar that's well known by everybody; he deserves to been seen and appreciated by everybody who knows him.
人类是追逐情节的动物。就像我们关注杨洋,除去确实喜欢他这个人和他的角色之外,也是在关注“这个人身上还会发生什么”,对他的故事充满了好奇心。但就连童话都是需要有白雪公主被后母谋害、吃苹果假死的情节的,谁会想看一个“白雪公主被爸妈从小宠大,嫁了个王子很爱她,后来他们就幸福地生活在一起”的故事啊,很乏味的。
Human being enjoy following stories. Just like we follow YY, aside from loving him and all the roles he played, we wonder/care about what else will happen to him; we are fully of curiosity about his story. Even a fairy tale needs plots like Snow White was given a poisonous apple by her evil stepmother and fell into a coma. Who would be interested in a story in which "Snow White was taken great care of by her parents, and then she married a prince who loved her very much and lived happily ever after?" This is a very boring story.
这个夏天,所有关注过杨洋遭遇的人,无论扮演了什么角色,保护,旁观,痛心,义愤,沉默,跟风嘲笑,落井下石,恶意毁灭——但只要真正进入到了“杨洋”这个人的故事情节里来的,无一不是他的配角,无一不会关注这出由自己深度参与的戏剧主角的命运。这个故事里当然有海量反派,真心实意地想要毁了他并且下狠手去这么做了,但这么庞大壮观的戏剧,自然有着更加庞大的其他角色和观众群体。所有人的眼睛都盯着杨洋,聚光灯只照耀他一人。这出戏剧会很长很长,有些人中途离开,去了别的剧组,但永远会留一只眼睛在这个集结了无数爱恨情仇的美得不可方物的主角身上,会好奇地看着他,看他会就此黯淡下去,还是一如既往毫发无损、光芒万丈。
This summer, every single person who paid attention to what happened to YY, no matter what role you played -- whether feeling protective, being a spectator/observer, feeling heartache, feeling unfair, being quiet, joining the trend of ridicule, being a knife twister, spreading malicious rumors -- as long as you took part in the personal story of "Yang Yang", you were his supporting actor. Every participant would focus and pay great attention to the fate of the main lead in this drama that you yourself participated in great depth. There were certainly a large number of villains who sincerely wanted to destroy him and actually tried very hard, but a drama of such huge scale naturally had even larger number of other roles and audience. All eyes were on Yang Yang; the spotlight shone only on him. This drama is very very long. Some people might leave halfway, joining another drama group, but they'd always keep one eye on this incredibly beautiful lead actor who attracted immeasurable amount of love and hate. They'd still be curious about him; eager to know if his glow would start to dim down, or continue to shine ever so brightly like nothing happened (this summer).
This summer, every single person who paid attention to what happened to YY, no matter what role you played -- whether feeling protective, being a spectator/observer, feeling heartache, feeling unfair, being quiet, joining the trend of ridicule, being a knife twister, spreading malicious rumors -- as long as you took part in the personal story of "Yang Yang", you were his supporting actor. Every participant would focus and pay great attention to the fate of the main lead in this drama that you yourself participated in great depth. There were certainly a large number of villains who sincerely wanted to destroy him and actually tried very hard, but a drama of such huge scale naturally had even larger number of other roles and audience. All eyes were on Yang Yang; the spotlight shone only on him. This drama is very very long. Some people might leave halfway, joining another drama group, but they'd always keep one eye on this incredibly beautiful lead actor who attracted immeasurable amount of love and hate. They'd still be curious about him; eager to know if his glow would start to dim down, or continue to shine ever so brightly like nothing happened (this summer).
只有杨洋担得起这么宏大的戏剧的主角,只有他能扛得起拥有这么多的配角和观众的项目,只有他能演绎得出这么跌宕起伏的情节,承担并回报观众这么深刻浓烈的爱恨。——就像他扛起他演绎过的所有作品,并且以自己的角色同样吸引了无数观众强烈的感情一样。作为跟组了八年的龙套之一,我当然也在关注这出戏剧和主角的前路和命运;同时,作为一个非常势利、眼睛长在头顶上,只看得到最高处最耀眼的那个人,只喜欢最厉害最强悍的那“一”个的慕强批,这也正是我对杨洋这么疯狂上头的原因。
Only Yang Yang can take on the main lead in a grand drama of this scale. Only he can carry a project that involves so many supporting actors and audience. Only he can act and tell a story full of such twisted ups and downs. Only he can take on and respond to such strong and intense love and hate from the audience, just like how he carried all the works he acted in and attracted the strong and intense emotions of countless audiences with all the roles he played. As one of the walk-on background actors in this drama group (YY's personal drama) that I've been in for 8 years (ie. she's been a YY fan for 8 years), I certainly pay great attention to the future and destiny of this drama and its main lead. At the same time, as a person who is snobbish and arrogant with eyes on the top of my head, who can only see the most dazzling person standing on the very top, who likes the best and most fierce "ONE", this is why I am so crazy about Yang Yang.
Only Yang Yang can take on the main lead in a grand drama of this scale. Only he can carry a project that involves so many supporting actors and audience. Only he can act and tell a story full of such twisted ups and downs. Only he can take on and respond to such strong and intense love and hate from the audience, just like how he carried all the works he acted in and attracted the strong and intense emotions of countless audiences with all the roles he played. As one of the walk-on background actors in this drama group (YY's personal drama) that I've been in for 8 years (ie. she's been a YY fan for 8 years), I certainly pay great attention to the future and destiny of this drama and its main lead. At the same time, as a person who is snobbish and arrogant with eyes on the top of my head, who can only see the most dazzling person standing on the very top, who likes the best and most fierce "ONE", this is why I am so crazy about Yang Yang.
因为他就是有且仅有的那“一”个。
Because he is THE ONE and THE ONLY ONE.
补充一句:知道为什么有的明星能被“黑”掉,而杨洋黑不掉吗?
Let me add this: Do you know why some malicious attacks could destroy some stars, but they couldn't destroy Yang Yang?
Let me add this: Do you know why some malicious attacks could destroy some stars, but they couldn't destroy Yang Yang?
因为前者被黑的同时,没有多少人爱他们。而杨洋是那种有一万个人黑他,就有一万零一个人更爱他,甚至是更真诚更热烈地爱他的存在。
Because when the formers were attacked, not many people loved them. But in the case of Yang Yang, if there are ten thousand people attacking him maliciously, there will be ten thousand and one people loving him, and even with more sincerity and passion.
Because when the formers were attacked, not many people loved them. But in the case of Yang Yang, if there are ten thousand people attacking him maliciously, there will be ten thousand and one people loving him, and even with more sincerity and passion.
在这种情况下,越黑杨洋,只是越给他的长火之路多加几把柴罢了。
Under this circumstances, the more people tried to attack Yang Yang, the more fuel they added to help YY shine brighter and go further in his career. That's all it is!
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I like her idea of everybody being the supporting actors/actresses/extras in the personal story of Yang Yang! It's really amazing that so many people joined this drama group this summer. That was certainly a huge amount of true feelings of love and hate. People were so devoted! And it is also very true that a story without ups and downs would be boring and could not keep attracting the audience's attention. I'm sure many many people are curious about what's going to happen next in YY's story. It's just that seeing him going through the twists and turns in this story could make many people's hearts ache... Alas... Please stay strong, YY. There are many many people sincerely cheering for you, much more than those who tried to bring you down!
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Another article by the same fan. She has an interesting point of view in this one, too. This was probably one post in a series of several posts. Anyway, here it is.
https://m.weibo.cn/status/4945295085408048
而且羊老师比别人多跑两圈已经是保守说法了,其实是三圈以上:第一圈是多部真bg爆剧带来的高国民度,第二圈是主流正剧和男频的收视、网播和口碑以及在新观众群里的扩层,第三圈是绯闻、黑水、负面营销对名声、口碑和粉圈的考验。现有的对标他的流量,不要说前两圈了,就连第三圈都没有经受过的。不是没几个,是没有,他们粉圈的稳定性是靠着职业粉运营销维持不说,也是靠着“没有绯闻、没有人狙、只有红没有黑”来保持的,就跟金子和涂成金色的纸壳子一样,你得烧一烧才知道它的真正成色。羊老师被扔进炼丹炉里烧了无数次,哪次拿出来不是完好无损,金子都能熔化,他是依然保持原有的形状,顶多被烧掉些杂质;而剩下的人,别说炼丹炉,烧煤球的炉子都没进过。这就是差距。越黑越证明他的清白和稳定。放向他的冷箭,要是他自身太过坚硬的话,反弹回暗处小人的身上,希望你们还受得住;做坏事一定会有反噬的,如果不存在这个因果关系,那么我们今天也就不会说这个道理了。
And it is already conservative to say that YY ran two extra laps than others. In fact, he ran at least 3 extra laps: the first lap was the high national popularity and recognition that came from several true BG (boy-girl) dramas that were explosively popular; the second lap was the ratings, online streaming, and reputation from his mainstream and male-perspective dramas that expanded into new viewing groups; and the third lap was the test of the impact on his reputation, recognition, and fandom from dating rumors, black water, and negative marketing. The current high traffic opponents that benchmark against him have not even experienced the first two laps, not to mention the 3rd lap. It was not "not many have experienced these", but it was "NONE of them have experienced these." The stability of their fandoms were maintained not only based on professional fan operations, but also based on "no dating rumors, no opponents aiming at hindering them, and only red (being popular) no black (being attacked maliciously)". It's like a piece of real gold and a gold-colored paper shell; you need to throw them into the furnace to see the true color. YY had been thrown into the alchemy furnace multiple times, and every time he came out intact without any scars. Gold would even melt in the furnace, but YY remained in his original shape; at most, only some impurities got burned away. But those opponents, they have never got thrown into even a toaster oven, not to mention an alchemy furnace. This is the gap (between others and YY). The more people want to pour black water on YY (attack him maliciously), the more it proves his innocence and stability. For those who shoot arrows at him from hiding, please beware of the arrows bouncing back at you, if he is too strong. Doing bad things will definitely lead to retribution. If this kind of causal (action-and-consequence) relationship does not exist, then we wouldn't be talking about this today.
And it is already conservative to say that YY ran two extra laps than others. In fact, he ran at least 3 extra laps: the first lap was the high national popularity and recognition that came from several true BG (boy-girl) dramas that were explosively popular; the second lap was the ratings, online streaming, and reputation from his mainstream and male-perspective dramas that expanded into new viewing groups; and the third lap was the test of the impact on his reputation, recognition, and fandom from dating rumors, black water, and negative marketing. The current high traffic opponents that benchmark against him have not even experienced the first two laps, not to mention the 3rd lap. It was not "not many have experienced these", but it was "NONE of them have experienced these." The stability of their fandoms were maintained not only based on professional fan operations, but also based on "no dating rumors, no opponents aiming at hindering them, and only red (being popular) no black (being attacked maliciously)". It's like a piece of real gold and a gold-colored paper shell; you need to throw them into the furnace to see the true color. YY had been thrown into the alchemy furnace multiple times, and every time he came out intact without any scars. Gold would even melt in the furnace, but YY remained in his original shape; at most, only some impurities got burned away. But those opponents, they have never got thrown into even a toaster oven, not to mention an alchemy furnace. This is the gap (between others and YY). The more people want to pour black water on YY (attack him maliciously), the more it proves his innocence and stability. For those who shoot arrows at him from hiding, please beware of the arrows bouncing back at you, if he is too strong. Doing bad things will definitely lead to retribution. If this kind of causal (action-and-consequence) relationship does not exist, then we wouldn't be talking about this today.
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I might or might not agree with every detail she said, but I really like her "gold in the alchemy furnace "metaphor😆 That was brilliant. And it is absolutely true that doing bad things will definitely lead to retribution. So, let's focus on the work/performance itself and compete fairly without using malicious approaches. Again, every actor/artist is unique. Every one has his/her own fans. I believe every actor/artist works hard. Whether you are a fan of this or that person, it is a subjective choice of yours. There is no need to pour black water or step on other actors/artists to raise up the one you support. (And doing this really shows no respect to the one you support, because you don't think he is good enough to compete on fairground by following the rules of the game!) So, let's focus on supporting the one you love with positive actions only. They can all be really good and the audience will have many more good dramas/movies to enjoy! Wouldn't that be nice?
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